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Buying Signature Links

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

People buy and sell links all the time, that is certainly nothing new. About the only thing that changes is the cost of the links being bought and sold. On Digital Point (here: Signature Links)the going rate for signature links is about $0.50 for 200 posts. However, that price is rapidly dropping due to an over saturated market, so the buyer should pay close attention to what it is he or she is buying.
There are two main types of people that sell links, the first group is post whores that do nothing but up their post count to up the cost of their links. These members post little in the way of quality content so do little to better the forum they are posting on and actually do little in the way of helping the link seller. I mean, look at it this way, how many sig links have you clicked through? Was the post you checked the sig out worth reading? I’ll guess yes, and that’s why you clicked. Now think back, how many times have you clicked through a sig link that was attached to a post like “PM sent”, “thanks” or other meaningless drivel? No, these are not the members you should be giving your money over too.

The other type of poster that sells their sig link is just your average member with a spare link slot open so they are looking to make a few bucks. These are the members that are generally worth looking into. Their posts are generally of a higher quality and they are sure to generate more traffic to your site then the attention seeker I mentioned above. When buying from these members there are a few things you should look for before passing over your penny per post.

  • Member Rank : The sig of a moderator is generally worth more then the average member as people are more inclined to “trust” a link given by a member with some type of rank.
  • Post Quality : Simply click into the members profile and then click on “posts made by <user>” and it will give a post history complete with summery of their posts. If the first page worth of summaries have nothing cropped, chances are the member is a post whore. Look for actual content.
  • Reputation : While it is overall worth nothing on most forums, it can be a good indicator of the quality of the member. If someone has a thousand posts and only one green pip the post quality may not be up to par.
  • iTrader : This is not something on every forum, but if they have it or the equivalent, then anything in the positive is generally good. Keep in mind though, not all members make a lot of deals so high numbers are not always a sign of a better person, only a sign that the person posts more in the buy/sell areas. Read through the comments.
  • Threads Started : The higher the link is on the page, the more the link is potentially worth. A member that starts more threads has YOUR link at the top of more pages.
  • Post Locations : One of the things you want to look for is relevance. If a member only posts in the YAHOO forums, then your Google related link may not be a wise investment.

There are likely other things you should keep in mind, but the above list should be more then adequate for the link buyer to determine if the link seller is worth making a deal with. In all cases know what you are buying and if you do, there is a better chance of buying something of worth.

Forum Links through vBcode

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

Most people do not understand the built in bbCode tag system that is available on most forums out there, and not knowing can make your links look positively atrocious. Don’t get me wrong, I know most of the people here know HTML pretty well, but we all know that does not work while writing a post. So to make DP a better looking forum I thought I’d help out a bit by explaining how to actually post a link here.

The URL tag is what you generally see here on Digital Point though it is not the only way to link to another page. In fact, it’s not always the best way to link to another page. So below I will do my best to explain the various ways to link to another site or page.

  • General Linking is done via the URL tag which there are two ways to use. The first is [url]http://yourlink.com[/url] but that is rather ugly, so you may prefer the more advanced version. [url=http://yourlink.com]anchor text[/url]
    EX: [noparse][url=http://www.digitalpoint.com]digitalpoint[/URL][/noparse]
  • Use the [noparse] bbcode. This will make www.digitalpoint.com into a NON URL like www.digitalpoint.com (this actually works on MOST forums)
    EX: [noparse]www.digitalpoint.com[/noparse]
  • Some forums offer the [nofollow] bbcode, but that does have it’s draw backs. It’s still followed by server stats (as in if you linked to the DP from a no-follow link Shawn could still see that someone clicked from there to here via something like AWStats). [nofollow] works the same as the [url] bbcode but adds the re=”nofollow” tag. Keep in mind that this does not work on all forums.
    EX: [noparse][NOFOLLOW=http://www.digitalpoint.com]digitalpoint[/NOFOLLOW][/noparse]
  • You could also do random things like add in spaces www . digitalpoint . com or something else like that, but it honestly just does not look all that great.

Additionally you can do some shorthand internal linking to other areas of the forum. These come in handy while writing up your signature as they take up less space allowing you to better utilize your anchor text. Keep in mind, unlike other links, these will open in the same window.

  • Linking to a thread is as easy as [thread=thread_ID]anchor text[/thread]
  • You can also link to an individual post using [post=post_id]anchor text[/post]

It’s generally a good idea to check out what other nifty things have been added as well. For bbCodes check vB code(Other forums may have additional or differing code). For instance, Digital Point has a SEARCH tag which works like this: [search=Search Engine]search term[/search]
Search Engine can be one of; google, yahoo, msn

Searching vBulletin Forums

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

Duplicate threads are generally against the guidelines of every forum. So learning how to use the search feature can help ensure that you’ll not get an infraction, it will also help to keep the forums here free from excessive clutter in the form of duplicate content.

The FAQ has the search feature described as:
You can search for posts based on username, word(s) in the post or just in the subject, by date, and only in particular forums.
To access the search feature, click on the “search” link at the top of most pages.
You can search any forum that you have permission to search – you will not be allowed to search through private forums unless the administrator has given you the necessary security rights to do so.

But it is a little more involved then that so I figured I’d help all of you that can not figure some of it out. I’ve broken it down into several categories to make it easier on you and have some pretty images to guide you along the way.
There are three main methods of searching Digital Point, though each method uses the same backend search feature. I’ll do my best to explain them all so that you can better utilize each one.

To search from there simply click the little down arrow, fill in the blank, and click [GO]. By default it is set to show you matches by thread, though you can click ‘Show Posts” and your results will be in a by-thread format. This is nice if you are looking for a specific post. I go into more detail about both options later.

At the bottom of the little drop down window it says “Advanced Search”. That will take you to the main search feature with many more options to choose from.

The second method of search is on a per-forum basis. This drop down menu is shown below the navbar, under and a bit to the right of the previous option I discussed.



This works exactly the same as above but will only show results from the particular forum you are in, including any sub-forums.

The third method can only be reached by clicking on the “Advanced Search”shown in the two previous methods.


Search Forums:
A – Search by Key Word
Searching by Keyword is the most often used option of the search engine. Its main limitation is that all words must be four letters or more in order for it to function.

You have TWO options here:
- 1) Search Entire Posts- – This searches the entire thread post by post looking for the key word.
2) Search Titles Only- – This only searches the titles of threads for the key word.Many forums have a 500-count buffer to your search, though here at Digital Point it is significantly greater. Though if you are looking for something and find over 500 posts it may be a bit overwhelming so you may find it in your best interests to check out the additional features.

  • searching forum by forum, or rather figure out where your keyword best fits and search in that particular forum.
  • Fiddling with the Search Options below.

B – Search by User Name
This is simple enough. Just type in a user name, or part of a user name* and then click the SEARCH NOW button. This option allows you to search for posts of entire threads based upon which option is chosen in the drop down menu.
- 1) Find Posts by User- – This will show all of the threads that the user has posted in.- 2) Find Threads by User- – This will show all of the threads the user has started.*If you are unsure of the exact spelling of the username you can just give a few letters (just be sure the Exact name box is unchecked).

Search Options:
C – Find Threads with

This option allows you to search for threads with _X_ number of replies. You can tweak it so that the engine looks for threads with less then (at most) or more then (at least) the number entered into the “replies” box.

D – Find Posts from
You can state the time frame of the threads shown with this option. The dates range from your last visit to a year ago. You can then specify whether you want to show new or older posts based upon your date entry.

E – Sort Results by
This option tells the engine how you want things shown when it finds them. There are several options here based upon your preferences. It also allows you to place the hits in ascending or descending order.

The default is LAST POSTING DATE and IN DESCENDING ORDER which is what I recommend as it is set up like the default preferences of the forums themselves.

F – Show Results asThis section tells the engine whether you want the hits shown as individual POSTS or as THREADS. If you are looking for general information on a topic I suggest looking for THREADS then reading what is found. If you are looking for something specific try the POSTS option. Just remember the 500-count limit with this as looking for POSTS will likely show several posts within a single thread leaving many unfound. You can tweak the other preferences to counter this.

G – Search in Forum(s)For the most general of searches you will want SEARCH ALL OPEN FORUMS though if you are looking for specific information or if a general search finds too many threads you can pick and choose which forum you’d like to search in.

Search:
H
– The buttons!
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1) SEARCH NOW- – This tells the engine to do its job once all the other fields are chosen.
- 2) RESET FIELDS- – This clears all of the fields and sets them to default.

Preferences:
I – Preference menu
This allows two options.
- 1) SAVE SEARCH PREFERENCES
- – This will save any changes to the above fields in case you have individual preferences while searching.
- 2) CLEAR SEARCH PREFERENCES
- – This changes your saved preferences back to the standard default.
NOTE: This article was written in VB3.6 and I will get it updated eventually. However, it still holds pretty true with vB3.8. Also look for an update on utilizing the TAG feature for searching.

How to write non-spam forum links

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

I’m a member on several forums and lately I’ve been seeing more and more people posting links to articles or blogs that basically say “I wrote an article on _X_, here’s the <link> check it out” well, I recently blogged about _X_ as well, if you’d like to see it, check out my ‘recent blog post’ that’s up by my name….there is no need to post about it for the sake of posting. The administration of the site was kind enough to give us an option that leaves no need for such a mundane thread. When you do post a thread like that it simply smacks of SPAM and a weak attempt at getting a link and maybe some traffic.

What people do not realize is that if they would spend a little time they could get much much more click through to the article or blog post they just made. How? Simple! Just give a little content to the thread. That’ll do two things. First it’ll make people want to read the article, and second it can cause discussion, which in turn helps to keep your thread on the top, and the longer it’s on top, the more traffic it’ll receive.

I am a forum owner, and as such, when I see a thread that starts off with no content and a link, that thread will generally get deleted, and the poster will generally get labeled as spammer, especially if that is their first post. However, if a brand new member comes and gives a few snippets of an article or blog post in hopes of discussion, and discussion happens, I’ll leave the post, and it’s link, as that is falling into the grand scheme of the forum being a Discussion Board.

I’ve also recently seen a thread with the original poster complaining that he was not getting good traffic through his signature. I looked into why and the reasons were pretty obvious, and I’m not just talking about the fact he only had 66 posts at the time. I ran through his posting history and of his 66 posts I counted only a small handful that actually provided any content to the thread he was posting in. If I am reading a thread and see a post that says little more then “I agree” I’ll scroll down to the next post skipping over the sig links in the process. On the other hand, if I see a good post that adds something to the thread, I’ll generally stay there for a moment while absorb what the member was talking about. This has often led me to look at the member’s signature, especially if the anchor text is relevant to the thread they are posting in.

The same concepts also cross over into blog posts. Time and time again I am logging into my comment queue only to find unrelated entries with little more then a link. I don’t care about your cat site if I am blogging about my garden. Though, if you have something to say about cats that relates to gardening somehow, then by all means give me some content and your link, I’ll gladly let it stay, in fact, if your link is really worthy of being read I may even click around a bit and possibly even blog about something else you have to say. Though, just post a link and chances are I’ll not even bother too look, even if it does seem relevant.

Article Directories are nice, and should be the norm. When you submit an article to a directory, they will host it for you, if it has a link to your site, then it’s good for you, and good for them. The Article directory gets free content, and you get that sought after link, it’s WIN/WIN, and posting in a blog, forum, or even guest book, should be no different. Give a reason that your link should stay, and I’m betting that it will!

So unless you are posting to a link directory, give something in return (like good quality content). It’s the least you can do!

Promoting Links And Linkbait

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

I submitted an article to a few places and thought that was enough, but looking over my stats I was finding very few hits from such sources. I dropped the issue for months and tossed the notion into the “well, it sounded good on paper” pile. Then I had an epithany!

People are not reading my articles because they don’t know it’s there, so I set about changing that.

Bite your own linkbait:
I went back and Dugg the article, which in turn got a few more Diggs. Then I stumbled the article, which in turn got another couple stumbles. I then joined a few forums and started threads in regards to the article. I quoted the “fair use” ten percent and then linked to the article for more information.

My article is now a PR2 and I get at least a hit or two from it daily, so I feel the extra 30 minutes or so it took to socially promote it was well worth the time.

The buddy System:
My blog was not doing all that hot, so I did the above techniques and it helped some, but I wanted more. I sent a few emails to the owners of related blogs and worked out a system of mutual promotion. I wrote a long article for my own blog, as did one of the other blog owners. These entries were on different topics. We then both wrote smaller entries on each others longer entries and linked to the larger one as a source of information. We both enjoyed a short jump in cross traffic.

Promoting friends:
I did a few link exchanges when I first started one of my pages and I swear I was sending more people to the other sites then they were sending to me (though that’s speculation). I wanted to turn those tables so I took the ideas from my article promotion and stumbled the pages that had my links. Of course this works best if you are not on a ‘link list’ type of page, as if anyone stumbles into one of those will just stumble again. I did find that it worked at least in part for homepage links. This method has another perk, it creates links to pages where your links are on, which in turn can help their PR, which can indirectly effect yours.

Driving one way roads:
The same method as promoting your reciprocal links can also help for the one way links to your page. One way links happen naturally, so occasionally check Yahoo (site explorer) for incoming links and give those pages a stumble. If they are on a blog or a nicely written forum post, then you could also get away with Digg or another social bookmarking tool.

Take a trip to Freepages:
Now and then when I’m looking for something FreePages will pop up and while I rarely click into such pages now and then I will find myself there saying to myself “Wow, this is nice”. I’m now the proud owner of several ‘free home page’ accounts at various locations.  GooglePages, AngelFire, etc. While these do little for me in the way of PR, they have given a little bit of traffic and a handful of free backlinks.

Forum Ad Placement

Thursday, February 25th, 2010
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Forum Ad Heatmap

The placement of ads should be something you should think long and hard about, or at the very least think about. Some places are really easy to place an ad at. Others may require template tweaks, add-ons, or other forum modifications. At the bottom I will list additional resources and ideas where I will link to many mods on vbulletin.org. If you are not finding one to your liking just head over to their site and search, as there are many that I have not listed.
If you are a member of several monetized forums then you’ll likely notice that there are more places to put ads then the places I’ve shown in the heatmap. I’ve left those off because I personally don’t like ads in most of those places as I find them too intrusive to truly enjoy the community experience.


Header:

Once members are familiar with your forum they will tend to not pay much attention to the logo or any ads placed up here, but it is a common location, is not very intrusive, and is fairly easy to add. This location is nice for smaller banner ads, and as it’s on every page can bring in a fair number of impressions. To add an ad here look in your header template between the <!– logo –> tags.

  • Header Left: On most forums the left side of the header is where the site logo is positioned, and while this is common, it is not mandatory. You could place your ad here and your logo on the right side.
  • Header Right: The stock location for ads and site logos. As I said, placing ads here may lead to product blindness, but it’s still a fairly decent place to place your ads.

Navigation Bar:

I do not advice placing ads in the navbar, however, if you have a sponsor page you could easily ad a menu specifically for them. You can learn how to add items to the navbar here.

Side Bar (left):

Likely one of the best places to put an ad would be in the sidebar, and specifically the left side. Generally a site will have a navigational menu at the top of the column then place an ad or two beneath that. The nice part of having it here is that it’s closer to where your members eyes will fall while they are looking for new threads, and should their eyes wander at all, they have a high tendency to land upon these ads. I have listed a few methods to add a sidebar in additional resources below.

Side Bar (right):

Ad blindness can be a major problem here, and having a left and right side bar can result in scrunched content in the middle. I recommend having a single sidebar be it left or right, though statistically the left will fair better. However, if you are trying to be less intrusive to your members then you may wish to consider the right side.

Between posts:

There is a wide variety of options for placing your ads between posts so I’ll touch on two of the main ones.

  • Text Link Ads: These are likely the least intrusive ads you can display, and if they fit within the theme of your forum can also be the most effective. As your readers must scroll passed these with them in their line of site you may notice a better click through rate then any other location.
  • Banner Ads: A bit more intrusive then the Text Ads I’ve mentioned above but equally effective. To help keep them from being an eye sore you should play around with the types and sizes of ads available as to not disrupt the flow of the thread.

Before Quick Reply:

In the Admin Control Panel you can set it so that members must click the quick reply Icon in order to unlock the Quick Reply Editor. If that is set, then a user clicks to reply it will take the window down to the ad, placing it in an excellent position to be seen. However, when they use the normal reply method such an ad may go overlooked, so it is up to you as the Administrator to determine if this would be a good placement for ads. At any rate is should have a higher click rate then a footer ad.

Footer:

Ads placed in the footer are the least seen by any member and many link buyers will not buy footer links for this reason. Ads here are also the least intrusive, as many members will never see one. Placing a footer ad is as easy as placing a header ad. Simply log into your control panel, and then look in Styles and Templates for your footer. Implementation should be as simple as placing the desired HTML.

In the end it is up to you where you would like to place your ads and I hope that you have found this article informative enough to help in such a decision. It is paramount that you keep your core members happy and to find that happy medium between monetizing your forums and spamming yourself out of existence. Try one or two of the placements, then try another one or two. Tweak and try again. Eventually you will find that happy place where you and your member base are both happy.

20 Steps to Forum Link-Building

Thursday, February 25th, 2010

Joining and posting on forums can bring in loads of traffic to your own site if you keep a few things in mind while posting. You can also gain a few friends, and in return a few one way links as they plug your site as well. So read on…

Your first steps here will be to actually find applicable forums to post on.

  1. You’ll need a valid email address
    Having a VALID address will prove you are a human, so this is actually important enough to mention.
  2. Find a forum.
    The easiest way to do this is to search for “your niche” + Forum. If you have a preferred forum platform then replace forum with something like SMF, vBulletin, or phpBB. This should list several forums within your specialty.
  3. Join the forum!
    Remember to use your valid email address.
  4. Fill in your profile.
    Most offer a spot for your homepage, but also add an Avatar, your YAHOO or AIM information, and of course your signature! Fill in the biography as well, just don’t spam your location. Either put in your real location or something witty. Most people are put off by a web address there.

Now that you are a member of a forum you should be ready to get posting. You do not need to stay logged into the forum, or work very hard at what needs to be done, so relax. Log into the forum for as little as a half hour a week, check the ‘new posts’ link and answer a few questions or get involved with a few conversations. Log out, and head back the following week. In 30 minutes you should be able to get out 2 or 3 decent quality posts. However, the longer you stay, and the more you post, the more recognition you will get.

Forum Etiquette:

1. BE HUMAN!
First and foremost in forum linkbuilding is to be HUMAN. No one likes a bot, and most forums will delete the post anyway.

2. Be a part of the Community.
Your posts should speak for themselves. If you are personable and people like you, they will click on your signature links to see what else you have to say.

3. Follow the rules.
Getting yourself banned from a popular forum does nothing but lower your click through rates. Think of yourself as a moderator on the forum you are posting at (even if you are not a mod) and ask yourself if you delete what you are about to post if it was being posted by someone else.

4. Don’t Spam!
Do not start threads that point to your links in your signature, though if someone starts a thread on a topic that’s relevant to one of your pages, then by all means quote a little bit of it, and give a link to the rest of it. This should be covered under fair use in the copyright laws, and most mods allow such things (if done in good taste). Just don’t over do it.

5. Don’t bother with checking for rel=”nofollow”.
The key to forum linking is traffic. People follow nofollow links, so use them. Especially if it is a popular forum. The traffic you’ll get should supersede any negative effects of the nofollow tag anyway. Besides, most of the threads you’ll be posting in have PR0 or are unranked anyway.

6. READ sticky threads!
Many forums have sticky threads for resources. As your site is a resources, post it! Sticky threads also have a higher tendency to get PR which is, as you know, the best backlink. It is better to wait a few weeks (and a few posts) before plugging your sites like this.

7.Post!
But don’t post whore. 10 GREAT posts will bring in more traffic then 100 one-liners that people simply scroll past. The higher quality you can keep the forum, the higher quality your links will be.

8. Be keyword rich
Don’t list them, but use then as often as possible. Your posts will do better in the SERPS and may result in more guests clicking your links.

9. Trade sig links with other community members.
If you link to your site and someone else’s, and they do the same for you it can potentially double your linking power. This can be tricky to ask for however, so beware.

10. Make friends with the mod team!
If you have a friend on the inside, then you’ll have a better chance to squeeze out something a bit spammier. Just don’t let them know you read this list!

Posts to try:

1. Introduce yourself.
This post is important, as it’s +1 post count, and often a good way to make friends. Don’t bother plugging your site in your intro thread as that is generally an indication you are a spammer. Just give a good “hello” and maybe a little bit about yourself.

2. Post about things that interest you.
You’ll actually know what you are talking about, your posts will be relevant, and likely appreciated.

3. Be On-Topic!
Topicality is a major point that many forum goers neglect. Don’t be kind of on topic, be exactly on topic. The more relevant your posts can be the better for you, the forum you are on, and the internet community as a whole.

4. Controversy
Everyone likes a good debate, just don’t resort to name calling. If the thread you post in is a hot topic then it will have a higher chance of staying on page one. Just make sure you remain cool, and don’t troll or flame.

5. Thanks
While trying to stay away from pointless one liners, still be kind and courteous to your fellow forumers. Thank others when applicable, and they may just become your friend ~ a friend which you can later invite to check out your site.

6. Be friendly!
In all that you do, do it with a smile. People will like you and want to be like you…

7. Be helpful and informative.
Not every post needs a link as every post has your signature. So just post what you know, and don’t be overly concerned about backlinks. In fact, see the next point.

8. Give other links…
Link to sites other then yours. Doing that will show you are not just plugging your sites. Link to my sites, or link to your friends sites. You don’t need to do it often, but trust me, you’ll less like a salesmen and more like a part of the forum family. It may be wise to not link to competing sites, however, linking to other sites that link to yours can be a real bonus.

9. Make friends with the post whores.
Most of these people are on the mod team, but not all of them. Making friends with the ‘core’ members will help get you further in the community. They also tend to have a higher rep power on forums that use the reputation system, and they are generally inclined to use it on their friends. The first step in them liking you is simply posting in their threads.

10. BE HUMAN!
Again, no one likes a bot, and most hate spam. Post as a member of the community and you’ll find that your post links, and signature will take you farther.

If you have a forum yourself:

1.Do all the posting points above
The reasoning behind that should be obvious, and members clicking through from other communities should see the same person on your site.

2.Start a Street Team
Find a few loyal members that you can give a few added perks too in return for them posting on other forums. If they are also linking to your sites, that’ll help your cause even more. Have them read this guide, then have them do what they do best.

3.Join in on post exchanges.
So long as you and the person you are trading with are adding content, then both parties win. This point can work well with the Street Team mentioned above.

4.Expect people to use these guidelines on your site, and let them!
Seriously, as long as that member is contributing to your site what is the harm? Chances are they will be adding decent content, and as long as they are following this guide, they will likely do more good then bad. Though, if they are crossing the lines into spam, then don’t hesitate to issue them an infraction.

Two Bonus Tips:

  • Many new forums actually PAY you to post.
    Take advantage of this. While the traffic may be a bit slow, if you prove your worth you may find yourself asked to join the mod team. Though pay attention to the actions of the owner/admin. If they are not actively promoting their forum your work may be wasted.
  • Sell your signature!
    Really. If you are plugging one or two of your sites via your signature, then selling a 3rd spot should not be out of the ordinary. Just don’t be spammy, and be sure you are only selling to relevant buyers. Promoting your automotive sites, with another link to a bid directory may seem a bit strange, which in turn could raise a few red flags with the site staff.

Lastly I would like to say that this method of link building is more about traffic and less about Search Engine Optimization. Your forum posts and signature may very well help you in Search Engine Results Pages (SERP) but will likely do very little in the way of Page Rank. Your posting style will reflect upon your product/site so for good product recognition it is generally advised to post with a smile and aways follow Good Form practices. Be yourself, and post what you know.

If you would like to discuss this article or see even more tips then see THIS thread on Digital Point.